Time: 14:30-15:30, Nov. 11, 2005
Interviewing at: Ma Youlu’Home
Interviewee: Ma Youlu ( Former Director of Huangzhong County Religion Department)
Recorded by: Ma Guicai, Ma Youzhong, Dong Shengfa, Zhao Shengxiang

Q: Who is the founder of the reincarnation system?
A: The founder is Garma Pakshi. Monge Khan bestowed him a gold-rimmed black hat and a golden seal of authority. Prior to his death in 1283, Garma Paksli penned a will to locate a boy to inherit the black hat which is kept till today.

Q: What is the benefit of the reincarnation system?
A: The system helped solve the problem of inheriting the power of religious leaders. Before the system, the sects of Buddhism had a close relationship with local feudal landlords. The big landlord families contended for the power and cause social instability. And Gelug sect perfected the system.

Q: What is the ground of the system?
A: In general, 'Buddha' means 'Awakened One', someone who has awakened from the sleep of ignorance and sees things as they really are. A Buddha is a person who is completely free from all faults and mental obstructions. There are many people who have become Buddhas in the past, and many people will become Buddhas in the future….There is nothing that Buddha does not know. Because he has awakened from the sleep of ignorance and has removed all obstructions from his mind, he knows everything of the past, present, and future, directly and simultaneously.

Q: What are the titles of living Buddha?
A: The usual titles are Zhugu, Lama, Ala and Renboqie.

Q: How to find the soul boy?
A: There are many ways. According to the will and predict, or mysterious signs, secretly looking for, identifying remains and drawing lot from golden urn.